Bob's Great Great Grandparents

While I admit that I don't do nearly as much research on his family, I didn't realize how much information I was missing.  I don't know any of his Great Grandparents on his Mother's side, much less his Great Great Grandparents.  I am positive that all of his ancestors on that side were born in Japan.  

Even on his Dad's side, the facts are kind of sparse.  It is just a calculated guess that 16 & 17 were born in Ireland, based on who I think the boys were living with on  the 1860 census.  I could be wrong about the census record, as other relatives think that a different census record is them. 

Bob’s Great Great Grandparents

16.   Unknown  probably bn in Ireland 

17. Unknown  probably bn in Ireland

18. Joseph Burton Sumner

            Bn  11 Oct 1837 - AL

            Dd  15 Feb 1920  - Sumner, Tallahatchie Co., MS

19. Susanna Ferguson

            Bn abt 1840  AL

            Dd 5 June 1909 Sumner, Tallahatchie Co. MS

20.  Emery A. Jordan

            Bn  1838 - MS

21.  Martha Sparks

            Bn:  abt 1844  TN

22. Thomas Dottry

            Bn: abt 1846 MS

23. Jane Teer (maybe)

            Bn: abt 1856  MS

24. unknown

            Bn  Japan

25. unknown

            Bn Japan

26. unknown

            Bn Japan

27.  unknown

            Bn Japan

28.  unknown

            Bn Japan

29.  unknown

            Bn Japan

30.  unknown

            Bn Japan

31.  unknown

            Bn Japan

My Great Great Grandparents

Randy Seaver issued a Saturday Night Challenge last night.  I was busy with something else so I decided to do it tonight.   Randy's Challenge   The first challenge was to list all of our Great Great Grandparents with birth and death information.  For my relatives reading this, the first 8 are on the Golightley side and last 8 are on the McCarley side.  I went to my genealogy software to get the data, but realized that I haven't updated it in a long time.  I needed to go to my notebooks to get some of the information.  It also showed me a few holes where I need to focus.

2nd the pie charts are below the list. 

 

16. John Golightley

                Bn 24 Oct 1846 Sedgefield, Durham Co. , England

                Dd  25 Dec 1925 Belle Plaine, Sumner Co, Kansas

17. Elizabeth Caroline Johnston

                Bn 2 June 1849 Ontario,  Canada

                Dd 20 Dec 1939 Wellington, Sumner Co., KS

18. Jonathan Mofford Wilcox

                Bn 25 Feb 1848 New Providence, NJ

                Dd 13 Nov 1929 Belle Plaine, Sumner Co. KS

19.Clara Alice McDonald

                Bn 11 Sept 1844 Urbana, Ohio

                Dd 12 Oct 1921 Winfield, Sumner Co.  KS

20. Ewing Wesley Lamb

                Bn 1 March 1857 Warren, KY

                Dd 14 June 1887  Sumner  Co., KS

21. Lucy Bell Rasdell (Ragsdale)

                Bn 17 April 1861   KY

                Dd 4 Sept 1886  Sumner Co., KS

22. John Henry Parker

                Bn 7 April 1841 Colebrookum, New Hampshire

                Dd 18 April 1915 Colin, OK

23. Carolyn S. Maddy

                Bn 9 Oct 1851 Shelbyville, IN

                Dd 10 May 1923  Harper, KS

24. Mitchel  Wilburn McCarley

                Bn Sept 1846  Holly Springs, MS

                Dd Jan 1916  Nocona, Montague Co., TX

25. Nancy R. McDuffie

                Bn 1848 AL

                Dd 14 Oct 1899 Ardmore, Indian Territory

26. Telghman Newton Niblett

                Bn  14 Aug 1836 Macon, Bibb co., GA

                Dd  March 1919 Cement, Coal Co., OK

27. Martha Adline Briggs

                Bn 13 June 1842 Alabama

                Dd 14 April 1898 Hughes Springs, Cass Co., Texas

28. William Britton Sample

                Bn 20 Sept 1866 Spickardsville, MO

                Dd 30 Sept 1908 Stockton, Rooke Co., KS

29. Edith Ethelda Neese

                Bn 22 May 1869 Webster City, Iowa

                Dd 11 July 1944 Springfield, MO

30. James W. C. Herndon

                Bn  May 1862 MO

                Dd 14                     MO

31. Martha Jane Lawrence

                Bn  July 1864  MO

                 

African American Websites

I have found a couple of really interesting websites for African American Research.

 Sankofa-gen Wiki
http://sankofagen.pbworks.com/w/page/14230533/FrontPage

This one has information about U.S.A. antebellum plantations, farms, factories, manors, etc. that used African slave labor.

South Carolina Plantations
http://south-carolina-plantations.com/
Information about South Carolina plantations.


Slave Archival Database
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ilissdsa/text_files/database_intro2.htm
You can list your slave ancestors to honor them and preserve their history.

A Break through ?

In February, a lady from LA, called me asking about the Dottery Family. I had some information she didn't have but she had some interesting information that I didn't have. She is descended from William M Jordan and Minnie Lee Dottery through their son, James.

I didn't know what had happened to Minnie Lee. Margo told me that Minnie Lee had lived with her parents in LA and eventually went to a nursing home when she got mad at them. She was buried in Palula (Kalola)?, LA. and that she had a son, J.G. Hope.

I didn't follow up on this, other than to look for census records.

Now someone else has called about this same family. Debbie did follow up on some of this information. She talked to the funeral home and found out that Minnie Lee's death certificate lists her mother as "Jane Teer". Despite having been married to someone named Goodman, her tombstone reads Minnie Lee Jordan.

She has also told me that a baby named Mary Teer is buried at the foot of Chester Evans Grave in Ebenezer Cemetery. I'm not sure what the significance of this is as Chester is quite a ways from any Teers on the genealogy chart.

1. I need to get Minnie Lee's death certificate from LA.
2. Who is J.G. Hope? Is this an indication that Minnie Lee was married to a man named Hope before Goodman? Maybe this is why I couldn't find a marriage for her and Goodman. This means another trip to the library to check the MS marriage records.

National Archives in Fort Worth

I've made the trip to the National Archives in Fort Worth many times. Sometimes I am disappointed and other times wildly successful. Even the staff was amused the day I found the McCarley Indian file. I couldn't help but dance at the copier as I copied 123 pages. It was a file with pages of wonderful things, like original signatures, a marriage certificate for which I had searched for over 20 years, and a death affidavit from before death certificates. It was a gold mine.

They have moved. The National Archives at Fort Worth opened the Montgomery Plaza research center on February 28th. Their Facebook page has lots of information about the records stored at the archives. They have even started promoting the 1940 census that will be released on April 2nd, 2012. My mother wasn't on the 1930 census but she should be on the 1940 at about 9 or 10 years old.

In 2002, the National Archives opened at just after midnight, early in the morning on the day the census records were released. In 2012, I might just join the party.

Check them out at:
http://www.facebook.com/nationalarchivesfortworth

New information from the census

In my last post, I mentioned finding my Grandmother (Gladys) in the 1920 census. Her family was living next door to her stepfather's parents in Cotton County, OK. I knew that her mother and stepfather divorced after the 1920 census but that she remained close to him and even received letters from him just before and after her marriage at age 15. I became curious about her stepfather, James W. Ivey. What happened to him after the divorce? I had found a school record for my Grandmother that showed him living with them after the divorce, but I didn't know anything else about him. I still haven't found his death records, but I decided to find him in the 1930 census.

When the 1930 census records were released, I searched for my Grandparents. My mother was born in 1930 but she was not on the census records. I did find her parents, Ocie (Thomas Osa)and Gladys (Sample) McCarley. So as I did this new search, I wasn't expecting what I found. James W. Ivey was living with his brother, and parents in Stephens County. Imagine my surprise when the next door neighbor was Cid (Sidney) and Mattie McCarley, my great grandparents with 3 of their boys, Floyd, Wilbern, and Carl. AND the next family was Ocie and Gladys McCarley. In 2002, when I first found Ocie and Gladys McCarley in the 1930 census, I didn't know that the Ivey family in the next household was my Grandmother's stepfather.

Finding the hidden in the census

Tonight I did a program for the Lancaster Genealogical Society on ancestry.com. In getting ready for the program, I recreated some searches to make sure that they illustrated the techniques I was going to demonstrate.

I could not find my grandmother (Gladys Mamie Sample) on the 1920 census. She told me that she moved to Comanche County, OK when she was one year old and she lived there until she married my grandfather. I had even searched the census microfilm for Comanche County page by page looking for her at one point.

But things have changed. You can do searches with ancestry that cannot be done otherwise. The search box on the 1920 census (and all of the other census years) allows you to search by first names without the last names. This was important in this case because my great grandmother had been married at least 4 times and I wasn't sure that I had all of her married names. My grandmother was about 5 years old in 1920, so I put her first name and age 5 with a +/- 2 years and her mother's first name, Sarah in the appropriate search boxes, then I limited it to Oklahoma. The search did not bring me anyone that seemed right. Sarah's name was Sarah Violet and a few records had her name as Violet so I tried the same search with Violet as the mother's name.

EUREKA! That search brought back Gladys M Ivey, age 5 with a mother, Violet Ivey, and father, James W. Ivey. I knew that my Grandmother considered James Ivey, her only father, even though he and her mother divorced. Why didn't I find them before? I didn't know when I first did this search when Sarah Violet was married to Ivey and they were not in Comanche County. They were in Cotton County, OK. My Grandmother didn't know that when she was 5 years old she was not living in Comanche County.

I miss her and wish I could share with her the amazing things I have found out about her family.